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greenie_breizh ([personal profile] greenie_breizh) wrote2008-11-01 09:18 pm

Gendered images, the history of marriage and bromance

A couple of serious links for tonight:

Jean Kilbourne's Killing Us Softly 3 about images of women in advertising - it's worth watching even if there are no groundbreaking points that are being made in there, and there's some funny. :)

The one quote I really liked was one when Jean was talking about the fact there's been a rise recently in images that objectify men, as well. And how sometimes that's used to say, look, men are treated just as badly as women.

The problem? Apart from the fact it doesn't happen with as much frequency, it is that the structure doesn't work the same for men and women. "There are no consequences to men for being objectified." The images that we circulate that perpetuate an image of masculinity as necessarily violent and unemotional have much more power, and are much more dangerous.

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An interesting post, An exegesis on same-sex marriage, in particularly because it goes over the history of marriage as an institution.

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And I'll throw a lighter link in there, Nathan Fillion and Joss Whedon being adorable together. RL bromance FTW. :D

[identity profile] aislingtheach.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 08:48 am (UTC)(link)

Hey cool, t'as vu le petit docu sur la pub. :D

Pour avoir une petite idée de ce qui se passe dans le monde des vidéos clips, voici: http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VB06K8VQ

(En passant, il y a une annonce de poker, c'est normal, il ne faut juste pas cliquer dessus, mais plutôt sur le signe «play» qui se trouve sur la barre du bas)

Une fois qu'on a vu ces deux trucs, on remarque des tangentes communes et ça amène vraiment un changement de paradigme dans nos perceptions (à moins que ce changement n'ait déjà été opéré)

[identity profile] lounalune.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The video wasn't radically new to me, but some of the examples there were more extreme than anything I've noticed so far... I'll have to play closer attention. Then again, I don't really read the kind of magasines you find most of these adds in (but I do see billboards). The part about little children already being portrayed as passive/active was good, I had never really paid attention to that. So thanks for the link.

[identity profile] aislingtheach.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Je viens de lire le lien sur le mariage de même sexe. Excellent condensé!! Merci :)

Personnellement, c'est mes études en anthropo qui ont commencé à m'ouvrir les yeux sur la nature illusoire du «mariage éternel homme-femme depuis 5000 ans»... Quoique ça n'a pas empêché l'anthropo de produire des réflexions archi-rétrogrades...

Bromance. Trop cute comme concept :) Et c'est vraiment ça qu'on sent dans l'image. Wow.

[identity profile] terra-placidus.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Um. What? No consequences to men for being objectified?
What about rising rates of eating disorders among men, increasing numbers of men undergoing plastic surgery, further ingraining unrealistic gender roles that cause men to suffer just as much as women, and the narrow narrow prescribed stereotypes of masculinity? How is the structure not the same? To argue that objectification impacts men differently is to argue that there's some big cognitive/emotional difference between men and women, which, well, just isn't true. : /